favorite point & shoot for d slr owners?

topic posted Mon, August 11, 2008 - 8:49 PM by  Rafael0 Suri...
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what do you use? what do you like? dislike about it?
is it fast? good in low light?
how big can you blow it up and print ?
how nice are your images from you p &s , compared to your dslr?

i shoot with cannon 5d w/ L lens.. but they're just to bulky for everyday use.

i'm in the market for a pocket camera, a small one.
thanks :)
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Rafael0 Suriya^^ Aisner
Thailand
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  • Re: favorite point & shoot for d slr owners?

    Tue, August 12, 2008 - 10:47 PM
    Rafael0,

    Here's the dpreview of the G9:
    www.dpreview.com/reviews/canong9/

    I kind of wish I had this camera. Instead, when I was in Turkey recently, I bought a similar point and shoot, the PowerShot A650 IS. I'm essentially happy with it, and to a certain extent I like the movable LCD, but I think I'd like the fixed larger LCD on the G9 better. What I miss more though is the camera raw output option, which the G9 has. Additionally, I think it is smaller body, and this is likely because of the NB-2LH Li-Ion battery system. I'd venture a guess that this battery has much more operational life than the 4XAA's used on the PowerShot A650 IS. At the same time, the AA/LR6/MN1500 batteries are far more widely available, and from less specialized stores. So, a kind of latent advantage, at the price of a physically larger camera body, and a consideration when you want to travel ultra-light without carrying a charger plus voltage converter for an overseas trip.

    Blessing and Light,
    Michael
    • Re: favorite point & shoot for d slr owners?

      Thu, August 14, 2008 - 6:43 PM
      So has anyone taken their own test shot with each camera, a G9 and whatever big Canon or other DLSR? How much image quality is sacrficed?
      • Re: favorite point & shoot for d slr owners?

        Thu, August 14, 2008 - 10:37 PM
        Hi Soooz,

        I'd say, comparing A650 IS and EOS 1D Mark III, there's a lot of difference.

        I mean, difference in image quality, compared to things like shutter lag, which on the A650 IS is measured in geological time. A lot more chromatic aberration (CA), and somewhat less sharpness. And this is with 12.1 megapixels (A650 IS) vs. 10.2 megapixels (1D Mark III). A lot more purple fringing of green trees against a blue sky on the A650 IS, when properly exposed. Not terrible, and only something you notice when zooming in tightly.

        Despite the higher resolution, my impression does remain that the resolvable line pairs per picture height are greater on the professional camera than on the point and shoot, despite the difference in resolution. I believe this may be more of an artifact of the glass on the smaller camera, and not necessarily the imaging system, both of which are based on the DIGIC III image processor. But, on the A650 IS, I suspect they are not running the same algorithms, nor the same clock rate for the processor (though the 1D Mark III has two such chips).

        OTOH, I have found that at ISO 1600, the A650 IS is only marginally noisy compared to the 1D Mark III, it was surprisingly sweeter than I expected. However, it's much, much worse at ISO 3200 though, I'd say not usable. The ISO 6400 on the 1D Mark III is in fact usable, in comparison. So, I don't think they run as much cleanup or noise-abatement code for the little point-and-shoot cameras.

        Please note these are still somewhat subjective tests. I've not really had the time or inclination to compare on a scientific basis, because I think of these two cameras as completely different tools for different jobs.

        This article, however, is just stellar image science about noise in camera sensors:
        theory.uchicago.edu/~ejm/pix...ndex.html

        Blessings and Light,
        Michael
  • Re: favorite point & shoot for d slr owners?

    Thu, August 14, 2008 - 8:13 PM
    I use the Olympus SP570-UZ. What I Like: it's like a mini DSLR with a 10mp resolution and good grip. It has an incredible supermacro mode for extreme close-ups coupled with built-in optical image stabilization. It has a phenomenal zoom range equalling 26-520mm.AND- it has an ISO range starting at 64. Color rendition is outstanding
    What I dislike: This will answer two of your other questions- it's a bit slow (at least compared to what I'm used to from a DSLR), and I do notice image quality is "grainier" than my DSLRs because of the smaller sensor. Also, you can't attach a polarizing filter, so dynamic range must be adjusted on occassion in post-production. It is very good in low light, but I wouldn't attempt large blow-ups because of that "grainy" look I mentioned, especially at higher ISOs.
    Still, for it's money, it is certainly the best in its class, and I think it outperforms the Canon G9.

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