I have a new Nikon D50 and the instruction manual says that it will shoot continuously at 2.5 frames/sec. up to 137 frames in succession if the camera is set to MEDIUM JPEG and LARGE frames.
In order for the camera to operate at that speed, is it necessary to use the Sandisk Ultra, Type II memory card or equivalent?
Thanks. :-)
In order for the camera to operate at that speed, is it necessary to use the Sandisk Ultra, Type II memory card or equivalent?
Thanks. :-)
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Re: Continuous frame shooting with Nikon D50.
Mon, January 16, 2006 - 10:45 AMshort answer, yes.
depending on the firmware, the faster cards will allow faster shooting. I'd recommend the 80x cards though. -
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Re: Continuous frame shooting with Nikon D50.
Mon, January 16, 2006 - 1:46 PMI've been looking at the SanDisk 60x Ultra II 256MB SD card. I doubt if I will need to take more continuous shots than what this card can hold. And yes, Nikon's Customer Support says that it depends upon how many frames the camera buffer will hold, along with the speed and size of the memory card. -
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Re: Continuous frame shooting with Nikon D50.
Mon, January 16, 2006 - 2:06 PMYup. The camera has a buffer of very high speed memory, and different cameras have different sizes. In fact, if you go to the expensive bodies, one of the main things they have is more buffer memory.
When you take a shot, it's copied very rapidly from the sensor to the buffer, and as soon as the data is out of the sensor, the camera can take another shot. As soon as there's data in the buffer, the camera starts copying it onto the relatively slow compact flash card (or whatever your camera uses). This can happen in parallel with taking new photos.
If you just sit on the trigger, your images will be taken one after the othre as fast as the camera can unload them into the buffer, but since the buffer is emptying more slowly into the CF card than it's filling, it will eventually fill up, and you can't take any more photos until enough buffer space has cleared to hold at least one more photo.
The smaller the images, obviously, the longer it'll take for the buffer to fill.
So think of the buffer as a leaky bit bucket whose bits "leak" into the CF card at a constant rate. When you take a photo, the entire frame of raw data is dumped into the camera's converter to make it into jpeg or whatever, and the jpeg result is dumped into the leaky bucket. Since the whole raw image comes out of the sensor, it can't take photos faster than 2.5 fps in your case, and the conversion to jpeg makes those images considerably smaller.
So taking photos at full speed, each frame dumps a load into the leaky bucket, but the simpler the images are, the smaller those loads are. If the
camera had a file format that was so small and simple that at a 2.5 fps rate the data in was no larger than the amount that leaks to the CF in the fame time, then the camera could take images forever -- well -- until the CF card filled up.
If you're saving as giant RAW files, then each frame time you're tossing in a huge pile of bits into the leaky bucket, and it doesn't take too many of those to fill the bucket.
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Re: Continuous frame shooting with Nikon D50.
Mon, January 16, 2006 - 2:15 PMI would recommend against the SanDisk brand from my personal experience with them. Besides, Lexar is what works best with Nikon as that is what they designed around. I have also had very good luck with Promaster/Delkin cards. -
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Re: Continuous frame shooting with Nikon D50.
Mon, January 16, 2006 - 6:17 PMI have had problem with my two lexar 512 cards in my nikon d100.
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Re: Continuous frame shooting with Nikon D50.
Mon, January 16, 2006 - 6:27 PMI don't I don't think the Lexar "Write Acceleration" is supported on Nikons, at least the D200. The fastest cards for the D200 are the SanDisk Extreme IIIs I thought. But they are extremely expensive. I have a basic Sandisk 1GB and a 2GB Lexar 80X and both work just fine with my D70S and D200. Though the Lexar even without WA enabled I think is a faster card than the plain jane Sandisk. I've never timed it and rarely shoot buffer busting bursts so I've not noticed a difference. Unless you need serious continous action shooting and are contantly filling your buffer, get a cheaper card. I think any name brand is fine. Just my take on it anyway. -
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Re: Continuous frame shooting with Nikon D50.
Tue, January 17, 2006 - 2:40 AMNikon is one of the only ones who support WA...and my feelings on SanDisk are based on my personal experience (in fact a store I work at stopped selling them due to the number and frequency of faliures). They may be doing better now, this was a year or two ago... -
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Re: Continuous frame shooting with Nikon D50.
Tue, January 17, 2006 - 12:10 PMI did a little research since I'm shopping for a new card for my D200, I did a few extra semi-related searches.
As for the original topic, here is Nikons offical word on the D50 cards. And I guess WA matters not since it's not a feature on SD cards.
>The following SD memory cards have been approved for use in the D50 digital SLR.
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>SanDisk 64/128/256/512/ MB, 1GB
>Panasonic 64/128/256/512/ MB, 1GB
>Toshiba 64/128/256/512/ MB
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>Other brands and capacities of cards may work, but Nikon cannot guarantee their operation. Check with the manufacturer of the third-party card for compatibility information. Nikon recommends keeping one of the approved cards available for troubleshooting.
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>Multi Media cards (MMC) are not recommended and should not be used.
I'd check the web to see if there are any speed tests of SD media in cameras.
As far as other Nikon DSLRs it appears that for the D70, D200, D2 series both Lexar and Sandisk are both the two recomended brands (and IBM/hitachi microdrives). WA is supported on the D2 series, but not on the D70 or D200. I wish they had supported it on the D200.
Now is it the new Lexar 133 just mentioned elsewhere on the tribe? Or the Sandisk Extreme? Or save some cash and just get a cheaper 4GB card. Hmmm.....
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